Open letter to forum users</h1> <article> <h1>Open letter to forum users</h1> <p>David — Thu, 23 May 2013 15:32:38 GMT</p> <b style="FONT-WEIGHT:normal;" id="docs-internal-guid-6639ba6f-d200-e477-d595-c39a61433d2e"> <p style="LINE-HEIGHT:1.15;MARGIN-TOP:0pt;MARGIN-BOTTOM:0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">The purpose of this forum is to offer an inclusive (spam-free) place to share opinions, seek or offer advice, and discuss bikes and all things cycling. We are happy to allow anyone to participate regardless of what you ride, your level of experience, and what your opinions may be. This open and inclusive approach might invite some criticism of the company or our product and we are happy to hear honest feedback. In my opinion, this community has embraced and benefitted from our forum; so has Cervélo. </span></p> <p><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">However, in the interest of keeping this forum an open and inclusive environment, there are a couple things that we can not allow. The rules are few and flexible but let me make them clear so we can all continue to enjoy our discussions. </span></p> <p><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">1) No Spam. The only members that have been banned at this point have been banned for posting spam. And by Spam I mean advertising a product or repeated posting of the same message in multiple threads in an attempt to dominate discussion. </span></p> <p><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">2) No personal attacks. There will always be debate and disagreement, sometimes passionate, and it can thrive without direct personal insults. We have always been blessed to have a friendly tone throughout our discussions. I would love to keep it that way.</span></p> <p><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">Obviously, these rules require your discretion in interpretation. And in no way do I intend to dissuade anyone from participating; I just ask that we don’t let the quality of conversation slip. I have personally enjoyed reading and participating in this forum and feel like I’ve gotten to know and appreciate Cervélo riders even more. And I am confident that we can keep it friendly welcoming despite our varied opinions. After all, that is the way we Canadians like our discussions...</span></p> <p><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;"></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;FONT-VARIANT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;FONT-FAMILY:Arial;WHITE-SPACE:pre-wrap;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:15px;VERTICAL-ALIGN:baseline;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;TEXT-DECORATION:none;">Sincerely,</span></b></p> </article> <article> <h1>S1 drop out/hanger</h1> <p>DenisC — Thu, 23 May 2013 12:56:42 GMT</p> Hi there to everyone! I am killing myself to find S1 2009-2011 drop out/hanger, anyone has spare for sale? Will post pics when figure it out how? Thanks! </article> <article> <h1>Experiences with Front Derailleur Tab Rivet Malfunction?</h1> <p>NYCPrynne — Sat, 18 May 2013 12:10:58 GMT</p> <p>I just bought my third Cervelo frame (from a Cervelo dealer) and had it built up. On my first ride with it, during a downshift from the large to small chainring, there was a snapping sound,so I quickly pulled over, and found that the rivets on the front derailleur tab had failed. I have done a search through the forums, and found that while this problem does not seem to occur often, it does happen. It seems like from what I am reading, many have tried to fix the problem themselves for various reasons. Because the frame was so new, I had it shipped back to Cervelo. Has anyone had experience with whether Cervelo fix the rivets? </p><p>I am asking because I am anxious about this (it is a new frame), and because Cervelo apparently have had my frame for a week and a half now, without an answer as to what will be done? At this point I do not necessarily expect to have the frame back yet.....just want to know what is likely to happen.</p><p>What are the experiences of people who have had this issue? Does Cervelo deal with the issue, or do they leave you to find a fix on your own? From what I have read, Cervelo seem pretty responsive, and I hope that they remain so with me.</p><p> Thanks in advance. <br /></p> </article> <article> <h1>Learning to descend all over again...</h1> <p>cawright1375 — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 23:16:10 GMT</p> <p>Okay folks, I need some pointers/ tips or possible suggestions as to what is going on.</p><p>I have a base model S5, running SRAM Red with Zipp 404 Firecrest clinchers. I've noticed that when descending fast, say between 35 - 40 mph if I get a gust of wind, suddenly the bike seems to wobble and as you'd suspect this can be quite nerve wracking. I've had it happen enough now that I am not 100% sure it is related to getting aclimated to a new bike. My old ride was a 2005 Trek Madone 5.2 OCLV with Bontrager Aeolus 50mm deep section rims. This particular Madone was the model that Disco used at the 2005 Tour and had the "aero" designed down tube and seat tubes. The Bontrager wheels I was running where the same rim depth as the Zipps, they just weren't as stiff because the rim was a hollow wind fairing bonded to the rim.</p><p>A few of the things I've done to try and resolve this problem assuming it was rider error are:</p><p>-ensure wheels are secured, centered and tight in the drop outs</p><p>-gripped the top tube with my legs/ knees</p><p>-shifted my weight over the back wheel as much as possible.</p><p>-I've even played around with hand position in the drops.</p><p>The S5 was professionally fit using the Specialized BG process and I do not doubt that my set up is correct whatsoever. My saddle is in the front position as a result of the fit, so it isn't like I bought the bike and slapped it together myself. I just had it in for a tune up and because of a mishap with some ice/ snow (not while riding) I had to have two spokes on the rear wheel replaced, so I assume the shop tru'd the wheels. That being said I do not think it is a wheel issue i.e. tru or dishing because the old bike had that issue and this doesn't feel the same.</p><p>Have any other S5 owners had this issue? The descents around where I live in So. Central NH can be quite steep at times and there are times where you'll come out into the open and wham you get hit with a crosswind. I didn't have this issue with the Madone, but the frame designs are so totally different as to not be comparable. And I am worried that I'll be going downhill at some point and be all relaxed only to find myself on the floor covered in road rash.</p><p>So is there any suggestions/ tips or tricks that I might employ? I'd be curious to hear from the Cervelo engineers regarding this and whether or not crosswinds while descending were factored into the frame design.</p><p>Thanks.</p> </article> <article> <h1>Giant VS Cervelo. Who is on top in 2013?</h1> <p>Durianrider — Tue, 21 May 2013 02:51:40 GMT</p> Giant are half the price but double the performance. Better warranty if you read peoples social media experiences. Why is this? What could Cervelo do to match the quality and reputation of Giant? <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113805PM.jpeg.html" target="_blank" title="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113805PM.jpeg.html"></a> <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113804PM-2.jpeg.html" target="_blank" title="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113804PM-2.jpeg.html"></a> <a href="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113804PM.jpeg.html" target="_blank" title="http://s1250.photobucket.com/user/durianriders/media/Screenshot31113804PM.jpeg.html"></a> </article> <article> <h1>Warranty Nightmare</h1> <p>JeffS1 — Sat, 11 May 2013 23:41:51 GMT</p> <p>First of all I gotta say that I love this bike that is why I bought it, unfortunately the S1 I bought developed a crack on the seat tube. I brought my bike to my LBS (2 months ago) and they said they were gonna help me with the warranty. After a couple of weeks, the bike was done and I came to pick it up...surprisingly I found out that my frame was a 2012 S2, but the forks and the seat post were the ones that came off the S1.I spoke to my LBS and they said they were going to talk to Cervelo about this. After 2 weeks or so LBS finally got the new seat post and the a fork that was supposed to be NEW, but without the insert so now I am still waiting again for that insert to arrive. Upon close inspection of the guy who handles my bike in my LBS, he found out that the forks had wear marks meaning that it was already been used. I got a hold of him for a quick update and he told me that he contacted Cervelo again about this issue. </p><p>I do not know when my bike is going to get done. This is just ridiculous. I have heard of some bad stories in regards to the warranty job of this manufacturer, but did not think it would happen to me. I hope someone can give me feedback in regards to this. Thanks in advance and ride safe.<br /></p> </article> <article> <h1>S5 Tyre Experience Summary</h1> <p>turismo1997 — Mon, 20 May 2013 21:44:07 GMT</p> Just want to jump start this thread to catalog all experiences on using different tyres on our beloved S5. Feel free to add. Frame size: 48 Tyre: Continental GP 4000s Size: 700x23c Wheels: Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL Psi: 100 Issues: There is rubbing on the middle part of the seat tube. Good thing I have a helicopter tape installed. I can hear squeeks during rides. Tyre: Vittoria Rubino Pro III Size: 700x23c Wheels: Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL Psi: 105 Issues: Tried it once. I hear faint squeeks during my ride. Not yet sure if it is because of the the newly laid asphalt on the roads I've ridden this morning. Will update this once I get enough ride on this new tyre. </article> <article> <h1>Picture of your Cervelo</h1> <p>kervelo — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:31:30 GMT</p> <p>I cannot imagine any bike enthusiast forum without pictures of the bikes...</p> <p>Here is the Cervelo Soloist Team I built during the winter time. Nothing fancy, just a rock solid bike for everyday training rides. Components: Campy Centaur 2007 and Zonda wheels, FSA bar and stem, Flite Carbonio saddle.</p> <p><a href="http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1114488/">http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1114488/</a></p> </article> <article> <h1>S5 tail light solution</h1> <p>cawright1375 — Fri, 17 May 2013 14:44:23 GMT</p> <p>Disclaimer, I know there is another thread on this topic, in fact I was the one who started it, however I just wanted to post his info here on a new one.</p> <p>I'd been searching for a rear blinky for my S5 for sometime and having long ago given up a search for a saddle bag, I was looking for a blinky that could mount on the seat mast or the saddle. And as I cyclo-commute using the S5, it was needed.</p> <p>Cateye came through in a big way. They have a saddle rail mounting bracket that I installed last night and works perfectly. The blinky slides into the mount and can be placed horizontal or vertical and even with my saddle being in the front position, there was still plenty of room and with the blinky mounted horizontally, it tucks in nicely.</p> <p>I'd post a pic, but work blocks sites that I'd need to upload the photos.</p> <p> </p> </article> <article> <h1>S2 with 303fc</h1> <p>jonathdo — Wed, 22 May 2013 23:46:10 GMT</p> Anyone running 303 firecrests on their s2. Those rims are wide. Thanks </article> <article> <h1>I love my S5</h1> <p>jason s — Wed, 22 May 2013 05:15:12 GMT</p> I wanted to change the forum mood relative to the last day or 2. I just returned from a short quick group ride (about 45 km) and feel fantastic. It was a nice night temperature wise but the wind was howling and throwing us back and forth on our loops. I was fast tonight, top three of the group for the first time, and cut through the headwinds beautifully. ! was also very comfortable. The route has a good combination of rolling hills and climbs between 5-11% grades. I did not care that my bike may be a pound or two more then others at a similar price point and was able to chase the wheel and engage in some back and forth challenges with the Colnago C59 and Cannondale Super Six Evo that were in front of me. The first place I will look for a 454g weight savings is in the mirror. I love my S5 and have no desire to switch my ride. There you go! </article> <article> <h1>Gamin Edge maps</h1> <p>arim12b32 — Sat, 18 May 2013 20:49:35 GMT</p> So I just got a 705. It came with only base map, not the North America full map. I own a nuvi GPS. I copied the map in the nuvi to the edge, and I think it works. But, having never used the edge before, I don't know if there are other files that it needs to be fully functional. Any insight, tricks or other help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks </article> <article> <h1>Duration for Frame Warranty Replacement R3-SL to R5</h1> <p>silkishuge — Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:07:32 GMT</p> <p>Hi,</p><p>I am a real fan of Cervelo and decided to upgrade my R3 to a R3-SL. I never had any issues with my R3 so I never anticipated what was to come. Perhaps I should have read the forums first but its too late now. <br /></p><p>I have been reading a number of threads in this forum where other R3 owners have had cracked BBs. I purchased a R3-SL at the end of 2010 and rode it for a few weeks before two cracks appeared on each side of the BB.As I had moved recently, I could not send the bike to where it was purchased. I sent the bike to the nearest LBS I could find that was an authorised Cervelo dealer. They inspected the bike, though pictures of the cracks, took my receipt and told me to leave it with them. That was about a month ago. Things moved quite quickly at the start and I was informed from the LBS that I would get a R5 as a replacement frame, but may require a new bike fit because of the change in geometry. I went for the bike fir, paid $150 for it which I thought was quite reasonable. The information was forwarded to Cervelo to arrange for a frame to be made/sent, maybe both. I was informed that there might be a wait of a couple of weeks as there are two other people waiting for a R3 replacement frame as well. The LBS also told me that I would probably need a new crank because of the change in BB design, which I may have to pay for. They said not to worry, we will sort it out when the frame is sent. Since that time, it has been about 3 weeks. </p><p>I guess I am getting a little impatient as it is something that is bugging me a little. For those who have had their frames replaced under warranty, how long did it take? I am located in Australia and perhaps things are slower here. I have read a post of someone who managed to get a replacement R3 in a matter of days. </p><p>I hope someone could shed some light on the wait time.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for reading</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Jon <br /></p><p><br /></p> </article> <article> <h1>To Q ring or not?</h1> <p>WildeOne — Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:35:50 GMT</p> Hello fellow forum members, I am doing some research regarding Q rings as I seriously considering it as my next upgrade. I've read all the whitepaper/research on the topic (pros) as well as spoke to a few LBS owners (cons - although they have an interest in selling, the consensus was that this is not a worthwhile investment as they haven't seen/heard of any significant benefits from customers or club riders who use them). I'd greatly appreciate any feedback/real life experience (on climbing, sprinting, front shifting, etc.) any of you who use Q rings may have. On my end, if it will help me push even one gear higher on the climbs (I use 50x34 and 11x28) - it is already a worthwhile investment ;-) Cheers </article> <article> <h1>How many owners have a custom paint job?</h1> <p>Geoff — Wed, 22 May 2013 13:54:17 GMT</p> <p>As much as I love the red on my T1, I'm toying with the idea of a custom paint job. I'd love to see how many Cervelo owners have created something truly unique and one of a kind. If you have one, post here..</p> </article> <article> <h1>Garmin Cervelo riders makes me doubt S5</h1> <p>Zach — Mon, 13 May 2013 18:56:58 GMT</p> <p> I am the happy owner of a Cervelo SLC SL.I use it for training and racing. My plan is to get a new bike this year and until recently I was completely sure that it was going to be a S5. But watching the Gamin Cervelo riders in the classics and currently the Giro makes me doubt. </p><p>According to Gerard Vroomen the S5 is the best racing bike when you are not riding on cobbles or in mountains. But why is a majority of the teamriders then using the R5?</p><p>I am looking for the real answer. Not anybodys guess about comfort or whatever. Does anyone know why the team riders seems to prefer the R5 and not the S5? <br /></p><p> </p> </article> <article> <h1>New member q's and observations</h1> <p>gbend — Tue, 21 May 2013 12:54:17 GMT</p> hi everyone. I was searching the web because I have a question about my chain and I came across this forum and thought "OH, awesome.... cervelo owners will know" and then I started reading some of the posts. I am very surprised. Is it always this negative? Why do they allow people to bash the company on their own website? anyway, I do have a real question if anyone can help me. I have a compact crank and my friend has a standard size crank. We are going to switch because we both want to try the other one. Do I have to get a longer chain? The standard crank is a bigger ring right? I originally had a soloist with a standard crank and my new S5 came with a compact. I absolutely love riding both but the S5 is incredible. Thanks! </article> <article> <h1>A Question for the Hutchs & other knowledgeable folks....</h1> <p>cawright1375 — Tue, 21 May 2013 15:35:04 GMT</p> <font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Yesterday afternoon on my outbound commute, seemingly out of nowhere, the bb on the s5 failed.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>I am aware that all too often the bb is blamed for all sorts of noises for which it isn’t responsible.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>In this scenario it is quite evident that the bb has issues as it sounds like a roulette wheel is now installed in the s5 whenever any torque is applied to the cranks.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>Additionally, it feels as though something is rattling around in there and I can feel constant vibrations through my carbon cranks and carbon soled shoes, which is something I rarely get. </font></font><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">As far as I know there were no warning signs that were all that apparent to me.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>For example, last July I had to replace the original bb after almost a year of riding and over a period of weeks it got louder and louder. </font></font><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Now that this has happened, I am curious if I did get some early warning signs but was unaware they were warning signs.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>Over the last few weeks during my commute, I constantly felt like I was going slower than what my Garmin indicated when I would check it at the same point on each ride.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>Could the bb starting to fail have caused the cranks to not work as smoothly and thus create a bit more resistance?</font></font><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">Or is that theory totally out to lunch?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"> </span>Thankfully the shop has a bb in stock and I have a spare bike I can use because I can’t get the s5 in until Saturday.</font></font> <p> </p> </article> <article> <h1>Your Longest ride?</h1> <p>Goleafsgo5 — Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:58:28 GMT</p> Lets hear it, how far have you pushed it in one day, one ride? I just got heavy into this last year after losing 70 lbs so my longest to date is about 35 km's in one ride actually that's my normal weekend trek, short I know but this weekend I am gunning for almost 100 km's (weather is finally staying warm *fingers crossed*) and that's with a serious climb. I have gotten much faster though. So what about you guys? lets hear it! </article> <article> <h1>For Sale--two Standard Cranksets for Cervelos. Cervelo branded Rotor 3D+ and FSA K-Force Light</h1> <p>Mparrish — Wed, 22 May 2013 01:23:53 GMT</p> <p>For Sale--two standard cranksets and BBs for Cervelo</p> <p>172.5mm Rotor 3D+ standard crankset. 130BCD. Comes with Rotor non-Q rings AND awesome cold-forged Praxis rings. Cranks are barely used. Praxis rings are close to perfect. $300 firm, plus shipping. Praxis rings are $150+ alone. Amazing looking and riding cranks. </p> <p> 175mm FSA K-Force light carbon. BBright. Again, barely used. $200 firm, plus shipping. </p> <p> Email me at <a href="mailto:mparrish@fasken.com">mparrish@fasken.com</a> if you are interested and I will email you pics.</p> <p>Cheers;</p> <p>Michael </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </article> <article> <h1>For Sale: Antares 00 Saddle. White. Perfect Condition. $200</h1> <p>Mparrish — Wed, 22 May 2013 01:10:59 GMT</p> <p><span>For Sale: One barely used Antares 00 saddle. White. Perfect condition. Full carbon plate and rails. One of the lighest saddles in the world at 138 grams. Sells for $320 at Competitive Cyclist. http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=BUY_PRODUCT_STANDARD&PRODUCT.ID=8832&MODE=<br /><br />$200 firm, plus shipping.</span></p> <p><span>If you are interested, send me an email to <a href="mailto:mparrish@fasken.com">mparrish@fasken.com</a> and I will email you some pics. </span></p> <p><span></span> </p> </article> <article> <h1>Paint Chip on Brand New Purchase</h1> <p>Sherpa 2012 — Mon, 20 May 2013 15:46:11 GMT</p> <p>I am curious what the normal process is for recieveing a brand new bike and it having a noticable paint chip upon pick up. Due to a long shipment period and delayed arrival I had to buy the bike for my boyfriend to start training for his upcoming IronMan in August. I was very disappointed with not having options to fix. Does the paint normally chip or will it continue on a 2013 P3? And it does not to help that a tire was falt on the second day and it hasn't been ridden except for the fitting, but the shop won't fix free of charge. Any comments would be appreciated.</p> </article> <article> <h1>Question: lateral movement on new S5 BB</h1> <p>Behdad — Tue, 21 May 2013 18:46:57 GMT</p> <p>Howdy folks,</p><p>Happy owner of an S5 team Ultegra Di2 which I've been out riding twice now as spring has finally come to Sweden. Out of a coincidence I noticed today that the bottom bracket moves about 3-4 mm laterally. Meaning if I push the pedal arm inwards I move the entire BB so I can basically yank it side to side. Please help me understand if this is normal or that something is wrong and needs to be addressed?</p><p>From what I can read it shouldn't be like this, but then again, you guys experienced with Cervelo's probably know more than other forums. My bike experience is limited as my previous bike to this is a CX with Shimano 105 group-set on it and that bike is after two years rock solid. No movement in the BB what so ever.</p><p>Appreciate your help.</p><p>Behdad</p> </article> <article> <h1>Front der braze-on crack</h1> <p>Road rider — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:22:16 GMT</p> Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with cervelo warranty process with this. Submitted claim through LBS and waiting on reply from cervelo. Do they attempt a repair or just replace the entire frame. Bike is a 2010 r3sl. Bottom rivet has come loose, not completely out of the frame though. Mount is loose and does not allow the derailleur to work correctly. Thanks for all of your input. Can't post picture for some reason. </article> <article> <h1>Wheels for climbing</h1> <p>jiplet — Mon, 20 May 2013 11:28:12 GMT</p> Hi guys! Thanks again for taking some time to help me out with some decisions. I'm now looking into getting some decent wheels for those climbs. I am currently using Novatec Jetflys: http://novatecusa.net/project/jetfly/ So, with abit of background: I ride everyday, 1,049km so far this month and 542km last week, so weekly around a little less than that distance. Rolling with the R3 Team with SRAM Red, I thought it would be a nice time to upgrade my wheels. All the routes I take are fairly hilly, a 30km ride will have 350m of elevation, and that's one of the 'cruise' rides. For my hill training rides that I do at least once a week the toughest hill would be 16degrees and around 950m. Could I grab some great advice as to which wheels you guys would recommend? I am currently looking at Fulcrum Racing Zeros: http://www.wiggle.com.au/fulcrum-racing-zero-clincher-wheelset-2013/ Reynolds Assaults: http://www.wiggle.com.au/reynolds-assault-carbon-clincher-wheelset/ and The Fulcrum Red Wind 50: http://www.wiggle.com.au/fulcrum-red-wind-50-clincher-wheelset/ Thanks in advance guys! </article> </main></body></html>