- I was tested 200 times and was doped in 100 of cases. Yet I was only taken once, "says Bernhard Kohl.

Was he talking about EPO/Cera? He said he'd dope in the morning, be tested an hour later, with no worries! Sounds like there's no hope of ever cleaning up cycling.

Don't kid yourselves...about the only clean cyclist would be retired cyclists about to die of complications from years of doping beforehand.

 My guesstimate is about 95% of all pro cyclists have juiced up at one time or the other...

 

Yes THY I started a thread last week regarding the pressures to dope,  this leads along those same lines only stating the controls are not strong enough?  But Kohl did get caught and he is out so his statement may not be 100%, maybe he got a little too over confident, but they did catch him.  Maybe there is hope, but the pay off if you get away wioth it is too high...and the dopers are always one step ahead of the regulators.  According to what I have been told when pharmaceutical companies come up with new drugs they now have to submit a testing method prior to approval, maybe it will happen in future there is no time lapse to develop testing that dopers can exploit.  I hope that things get better to allow us all to enjoy the pleasure of watch a fair sport that is so much fun to follow, and participate in.

 see thread:

http://forums.cervelo.com/forums/t/3864.aspx, "and they wonder why they dope"

PEISLC

Didn't you see the video on top?
He was talking about everything, and I mean Everything. Blood-doping, EPO, Steroids..



UCI refuses to comment on Kohl




Sry, peislc i didn't notice it.
If you change the name on your thread, then we will not need this thread any more.

Press release: Statements by Bernhard Kohl: the UCI’s position
The UCI rejects recent statements by Bernhard Kohl, but does not wish to react publicly, considering it completely inappropriate to respond to a rider who has admitted having cheated throughout his career.

The UCI's commitment in the battle against doping, as well as its numerous initiatives on the subject, cannot be called into question by allegations made by an individual who has been excluded from cycling precisely because of the world of sport's determination to fight as hard as possible against the type of behaviour of which Bernhard Kohl has been found guilty.

While awaiting any information from the rider that would be genuinely constructive in fighting against ever more sophisticated doping, the UCI must nevertheless state that the blood values communicated to Bernhard Kohl's team - in accordance with the established procedure and with the athlete's consent - date back to the initial data collection stage of setting up the biological passport.

Any questioning of the effectiveness of the biological passport makes no sense as the rider's individual profile had not yet been fully drawn up. It was thus not possible for Bernhard Kohl to draw any valid conclusions on the effectiveness of the biological passport at that stage. For this reason, his statements are completely incorrect.

The analyses of riders' profiles, which during recent months have indicated a certain number of anomalies and confirmed the results of several traditional anti-doping controls, have now reached the final stage and will very soon allow disciplinary proceedings to be initiated.


UCI Press Service

Hi THY, there probably is a place for a unified thread on doping.  There were some very good comments on the thread I started and just thought they should be liked up with this new info.  It is a shame that Kohl had to say such things and further damage the image of the sport.  I did not have time to view the Kohl interview, and it is slow to load on my system.  The earlier thread was a little different in that it related to the pressures to cause riders to cheat.  Kohl takes the poor rider situation to a different level in that he felt obviously uncatchable....in essence laughing at the UCI and WADA.  I'm very happy he got caught.  No sympathy for him here.

 With the biological pass port let's hope it gets harder and harder to gain advantage, oer both the drug police and other riders.

UCI president comments on "doping scandals"

Press release : Commencement of first disciplinary proceedings on the basis of the biological passport



UCI names first five biological passport violators - CyclingNews
Former world road champ Astarloa among 5 targeted by UCI - VeloNews

THY:

Hehe, no one has forced you to agree with me, Peter. :-)
I know it's the capital of Kazakhstan, btw!

Remove the sponsorname and remove those people who are behind this concept from the start of.
Then just maybe the team might get back the trust again (at least from me).

The one thing that is missing now, is that Vino returns to the team that he built up for himself..

Vino' says he will be on Astana ... or heads will roll


I knew it!

He did his time. He's already done a lot for Astana; he resurrected the team from the ashes of Liberty Seguros. He brought powerful and rich new sponsors to the sport. And he's an exciting racer. Everyone, almost, from his generation doped. He was caught and did his time. Does that make him any worse than the older racers that weren't caught, and are still racing? The bigger problem is there are too many stars on Astana now. Armstrong made reference months ago about a new team he will lead. Hope it happens.

No problems, he has done his time.

Even do I want a five year ban and that they pay back all the price money, for first time dopers, and a lifetime-ban for a second time..

mudrock:

And he's an exciting racer.

Without doping, it a other case, I bet.

The good thing now is that if he try again it's over.

Italians and Spaniards never learns!

Press release : Two professional riders provisionally suspended for the use of CERA
Press release : Danilo Di Luca provisionally suspended
Press release : Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau provisionally suspended

THY:

No problems, he has done his time.

Even do I want a five year ban and that they pay back all the price money, for first time dopers, and a lifetime-ban for a second time..

mudrock:

And he's an exciting racer.

Without doping, it a other case, I bet.

The good thing now is that if he try again it's over.

 

Bjarne Riis is a similar situation. Honestly, however,  I don't feel much respect for someone who has a past as a liar and a cheater. But I'm not kidding myself that there still continues to be a lot of dirty stuff going  on at all levels of cycling.

DeepCover:

Bjarne Riis is a similar situation. Honestly, however,  I don't feel much respect for someone who has a past as a liar and a cheater. But I'm not kidding myself that there still continues to be a lot of dirty stuff going  on at all levels of cycling.

What Bradley Wiggins has done, by releasing his blood profiles for much of this past season, goes along way towards establishing one's credibility. The profiles show his haemoglobin, hematocrit, and reticulocyte levels. The relationships between these values, which have predictable patterns when using doping products, show that he wasn't using Mother's Little Helper. Wish Armstrong would do the same. Remember when he said his values would be posted on the internet?