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Last post 01-16-2010 8:05 PM by THY. 161 replies.
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  • 11-15-2009 10:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Riders in/out

    Updated:

    Cervélo TestTeam transfers so far:


    In:
    Stefan Denifl
    Theo Bos
    Davide Appollonio (stagaire, not signed)

    Out:
    Simon Gerrans
    Hayden Roulston
    Serge Pauwels
    José Ángel Gómez Marchante


    Re-signed:
    Thor Hushovd
    Heinrich Haussler
    Philip Deignan
    Andreas Klier
    Ignatas Konovalovas
    Martin Reimer
    Daniel Lloyd
    Íñigo Cuesta López de Castro
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    As you guys can see, we have lost 2 riders that was in the Tour de France-team and 2 riders that should have been in the Tour de France-team.. I'm really starting to get worried about the situation we've ended up in!
    We have lost 3 of our 6 best climbers!!

    We need some new quality signings!



    Gérard Vroomen about Thor Hushovd - I think he is one of the most underrated riders in the peloton!
  • 11-15-2009 7:02 PM In reply to

    • mudrock
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    Re: Riders in/out

    It's been a very competitive signing season, with well-funded Team Sky, RadioShack, and BMC scouring for top-shelf talent. Scott Sunderland, who put together CTT's excellent first roster, is gone and now competing with CTT for new signings. It may be unfair to compare Van Poppel's effort to Sunderland because it's a new year, but 2009 might be the team's high water mark for a few years.
    Alex
  • 11-30-2009 12:14 PM In reply to

    Re: Riders in/out

    This is a guy that I would have loved we had signed..
    Canadian to target Tirreno-Adriatico, Ardennes Classics

    The perfect replacement for Simon Gerrans, and we still have the José Ángel Gómez Marchante salary to use!


    I'm hoping for some good "christmas gifts" from the Cervélo TestTeam management. Smile [:)]



    Gérard Vroomen about Thor Hushovd - I think he is one of the most underrated riders in the peloton!
  • 11-30-2009 2:03 PM In reply to

    • mudrock
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    Re: Riders in/out

    Garmin-Transitions is doing something right. They command great loyalty from their riders. Of the 8 or so that signed elsewhere, most were former American domestic riders and did so because they couldn't hack the Pro Tour level. Even Wiggins, who is being aggressively courted by Sky, is staying. Vaughters has an eye for talent. If CTT wants to repeat their success from last season, they better get busy.
    Alex
  • 12-04-2009 6:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Riders in/out

    Updated:


    Cervélo TestTeam transfers so far:

    In:
    Xavier Tondó Volpini
    Theo Bos
    Stefan Denifl
    Davide Appollonio

    Out:
    Simon Gerrans
    Hayden Roulston
    Serge Pauwels
    José Ángel Gómez Marchante


    Re-signed:
    Thor Hushovd
    Heinrich Haussler
    Philip Deignan
    Andreas Klier
    Ignatas Konovalovas
    Martin Reimer
    Daniel Lloyd
    Íñigo Cuesta López de Castro
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



    If he [Óscar Pereiro Sio] can fix the contractual relationship with Astana, and get out, then this is a rider that I think we should sign..



    Gérard Vroomen about Thor Hushovd - I think he is one of the most underrated riders in the peloton!
  • 12-05-2009 10:01 AM In reply to

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    http://velonews.competitor.com/2009/12/news/tondo-signs-with-cervelo_101768?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
  • 12-05-2009 11:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: Riders in/out

    More good legs to help Carlos, takes away the sting from Marchante's departure. 2010 TdF is his last good chance: the lack of a team time trial and the low TT miles overall helps his chances. Now, Carlos has to fine tune his time trialing. If skinny guys like Contador can do it, then so can Sastre. Being a champion starts in the head.
    Alex
  • 12-05-2009 11:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: Riders in/out

    mudrock:
    Garmin-Transitions is doing something right. They command great loyalty from their riders. Of the 8 or so that signed elsewhere, most were former American domestic riders and did so because they couldn't hack the Pro Tour level. Even Wiggins, who is being aggressively courted by Sky, is staying. Vaughters has an eye for talent. If CTT wants to repeat their success from last season, they better get busy.


    Eventually, as our farming friend THY will attest, "the chooks come home to roost". Such is the situation at the Cervelo Thor Team for 2010. Dont say I didn't warn you!

    (CTT fanboys: please don't complain - you knew i'd eventually be back to rub in this exodus of talent and its lack of adequate replacement!) :)

    What a crap line-up (on paper) in comparison to 2009. I hope Haussler and Thor are feeling good, because it will be a very long season for them as the only two GENUINELY versatile podium contenders in this line-up. We've already heard that Sastre was considering to not even bother with the Tour de France, because he's "already won one". (!) Brilliant attitude, consistent with his attitude throughout 2009, from our only decent climber (now). I hope that 'tude improves a little bit by July, Carlos! You'll certainly need it to change, because you have very few quality climbers in your 2010 team to assist you in any of the Grand Tours.

    Anyway, we've seen a promising, strong, potent line-up of up-and-coming riders SQUANDERED by the end of the 2009 season. As always, I argue that this is a direct consequence of the CTT management making bizarre and inexplicably stupid decisions throughout the entire season - which frankly bordered on disrespectful to the calibre of professional athletes they'd contracted in a great recruiting effort. Mudrock, you've correctly pointed to Garmin as an example of a properly-managed team. That Garmin managed to retain the likes of Wiggins, alone, is no mean feat - especially in light of the paycheck offers that Sky would undoubtedly be trying to lure him with! Management quality makes a big difference.

    Cervelo should've capitalised with its strong 2009 line-up but instead they squandered it. We'll always consider what might have been if it had been done differently (it wasn't rocket surgery, guys! you just needed to select your strongest, winningest team for the big races - and not sabotage certain stage wins regardless of technical procedure!). What lean, mean, potent force might have been fostered further if it had been done right? We'll never know. One thing is for certain though: promising and successful riders - who are actually winning stages and consistently in winning form - tend to opt not to waste their time and/or their careers patiently waiting around while their management messes them around. They tend to move on - and take revenge - with their new outfits. Expect this in 2010.

    Thank GOODNESS Cervelo makes good bikes (although, having just bought a Ridley Noah instead of an S3, i note significant differences in both finish and paint work). And thank goodness for Thor and Heinrich, because the Cervelo Thor Team's talent pool gets pretty sketchy beyond those two. :(

    Cervelo Thor Team fanboys: you have my condolences on a poo 2010 squad.
    Darren

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  • 12-05-2009 12:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: Riders in/out

    Darren,Darren, Darren .. ouch! As THY posted on his official 2010 TdF thread, competition will be steep to get an invite next year. 16 teams get automatic invites, which leaves some great teams vying for 4 or 6 wild cards: Radio Shack, Team Sky, Katyusha, Garmin (all Pro Tour), BMC, CTT, Skil-Shimano. And of course some crappy French continental teams that shouldn't get any consideration but will. What if CTT hasn't any great success in the spring? Will they get an invite based on Thor's green jersey alone? Carlos' poor showing last year and sour grapes press conference didn't help.
    Alex
  • 12-06-2009 2:31 AM In reply to

    • Mr R3
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    Re: Riders in/out

    Mudrock, as always I enjoy your passive-aggressive reasoning. Well said. I think i need to borrow some of your tact and subtle delivery! When i woke up this morning and re-read my late night rants, i cringed slightly but happily noted that i still agreed with myself (which is a good thing). ;)

    Your points are spot-on as always.

    Myself, I predict that Haussler and Thor have enough grunt to get the results for the team in the Spring. Probably enough to achieve a team invite to the big summer events. But once they get the team an invite, will they still be firing on all cylinders after a long Spring? We'll see.

    Deep down, something tells me that Thor has ambitions in July that go beyond the Green jersey. Possibly more ambition than even Sastre. Either way, he ain't gonna have a lead-out train or much help in the hills of a tougher Tour. Also, there will be a "local training ride" stage for Haussler to blow away all competition, like there was in the 2010 Tour. He has incredible talent, but it will be a long Spring for that guy in particular.

     

    Darren

    - 2006 R3 (SRAM Red, Zipp Team Issue)
    - 2006 Soloist Carbon (SRAM Red, Fulcrum Racing Zero)
    - 2009 Ridley Noah (DA 7900, Zipp 404)
  • 12-06-2009 8:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: Riders in/out

    Mr R3:

    Myself, I predict that Haussler and Thor have enough grunt to get the results for the team in the Spring. Probably enough to achieve a team invite to the big summer events. But once they get the team an invite, will they still be firing on all cylinders after a long Spring? We'll see.

    This is what worries me. They lost Pauwels, Gerrans, Marchante, and Roulston, 3 of whom are scrappy riders who can attack in varying terrain. They gained Bos, who is a sprinter with no experience on the road, and Tondo, a climber who will work for Sastre in the tours. This puts more pressure on Haussler and Hushovd to deliver, and Haussler won't be given the freedom by the peleton that he got last year. Injuries/sickness can happen to anyone; remember how badly Cancellara did until the Tour de Suisse? And the races that Thor targets in the spring - San Remo, Paris-Roubaix - are contested by a lot of heavy hitters. If they aren't successful, they may not even get a Tour invite. THY may scoff, but he's just whistling past the graveyard [how's that for an expression?: CTT should put that on their shorts THIS year!].

    Alex
  • 01-16-2010 8:05 PM In reply to

    Re: Riders in/out

    Last Updated (?):


    Cervélo TestTeam transfers so far:

    In:
    Xavier Tondó Volpini
    Theo Bos
    Stefan Denifl
    Davide Appollonio
    João Correia

    Out:
    Simon Gerrans
    Hayden Roulston
    Serge Pauwels
    José Ángel Gómez Marchante
    Daniel Fleeman


    Re-signed:
    Thor Hushovd
    Heinrich Haussler
    Philip Deignan
    Andreas Klier
    Ignatas Konovalovas
    Martin Reimer
    Daniel Lloyd
    Íñigo Cuesta López de Castro
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    I hope we will sign more Canadians and Swiss riders before this transfer season ends.
    Only one Swiss and one Canadian rider in our team is too littel in my opinion!

    We are, after all, an Swiss/Canadian team!



    Gérard Vroomen about Thor Hushovd - I think he is one of the most underrated riders in the peloton!
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