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Different S5 Models?

Last post 07-16-2011 3:44 PM by edwinfabre. 60 replies.
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  • 07-01-2011 11:17 AM

    Different S5 Models?

     OK, so the S5 white paper references the VWD S5. Does that mean more than one model? What are the exact specs and prices for the different models?

    I am one of those with a slammed SLC-SL -17 degree stem in a 56. I plan to order a 54 S5 to get the same stack height and then modify/lengthen the stem as necessary.

    Tim

  • 07-01-2011 11:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Different S5 Models?

    Specs and prices are right at the Cervelo website

  • 07-01-2011 2:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Different S5 Models?

    3 different specs for the S5.

    £2200, £3000 and £4000 frame sets.

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  • 07-01-2011 3:20 PM In reply to

    Re: Different S5 Models?

     Yes, looks like 3 frames, entry, Team (like in the pictures), and VWD. Pricing around $3k, #3,800, and around $5k. I was in the car so couldn't write everything down. Weight about 10% higher at each level.

  • 07-01-2011 9:52 PM In reply to

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    From http://forums.cervelo.com/forums/AddPost.aspx?ReplyToPostID=57630&Quote=False

    Filomeno Martina

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  • 07-02-2011 4:47 AM In reply to

    Re: Different S5 Models?

    What are the differences between the three S5 versions? Weight? Stiffness? Comfort? Features?
  • 07-02-2011 10:54 AM In reply to

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    I am hoping that one model (maybe the $3000 model) will have a standard BB.  I think that BB-Right is an awesome system, but I have no intentions of buying a new SRM - and I am sure that there are a lot of other people who feel the same way.

  • 07-02-2011 3:42 PM In reply to

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    dumalam:
    What are the differences between the three S5 versions? Weight? Stiffness? Comfort? Features?

    By using more of the carbon and layup details learned through Project California, the framesets get lighter as you go up the range. Stiffnes, comfort and features are the same too.

    They share the same mold, so same shape, which means the same geometry, fit, handling and aerodynamics.

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    http://www.bbright.net
  • 07-02-2011 3:50 PM In reply to

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    pritchet74:

    I am hoping that one model (maybe the $3000 model) will have a standard BB.  I think that BB-Right is an awesome system, but I have no intentions of buying a new SRM - and I am sure that there are a lot of other people who feel the same way.

    All three S5 models have BBright for best stiffness and weight.

    What kind of SRM do you have? Unless it's a 68mm only system (square taper or OctaLink), with the right bottom bracket bearings & cups it will probably work in a BBright frame.

    Check the BBright compatibility tables at http://bbright.net/supportingbrands.aspx to see what parts you might need to use your SRM on an S5.

    By the way, backward compatibility with crank-based power meters is one of the three reasons a BBright bottom bracket shell is longer on the left only, not on the right: we respect the space the power meter uses. The other two reasons are:

    • Triple chain ring compatibility (a 30mm axle needs a big enough bearing it hits the ID of the granny gear if it's too far to the right), and
    • There is no structural benefit to widening the BB shell to the right: no frame tubes can get wider (FD, chain are in the way), and the shell just "sticks out" unsupported, with the curved fibers creating a poor structural load path: heavier or more flexible or both.
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    Vroomen.White.Design
    http://www.cervelo.com
    http://www.bbright.net
  • 07-02-2011 5:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Different S5 Models?

    The web site has been updated for all the models.

    Matt.
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  • 07-02-2011 6:44 PM In reply to

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    Tim, I'd be really careful with your next move. Going smaller in the frame and even longer in the stem can lead to spooky handling and too much weight forward of the crank. Additionally, I'd get a bike that fits you and ignore the temptation to have the latest frame and then trying to make it fit. It's the opposite of everything bike fit is supposed to do. As a guy with a long torso and short arms there are just some bikes I can't ride, I have to accept that. Give it some more thought and time.
  • 07-02-2011 8:43 PM In reply to

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    damon_rinard:

    dumalam:
    What are the differences between the three S5 versions? Weight? Stiffness? Comfort? Features?

    By using more of the carbon and layup details learned through Project California, the framesets get lighter as you go up the range. Stiffnes, comfort and features are the same too.

    They share the same mold, so same shape, which means the same geometry, fit, handling and aerodynamics.

    Damon A few quick questions for you I noticed in the description that the Standard S5 frameset uses a 3T Funda team fork and the Rival build uses a FK26 sl. Are you guys in fact still using funda forks? I figured with the dropped downtube that you would have to use the Cervelo FK 26 fork and the Funda would not be useable. Is this true? Also is there any difference in weight and stiffness between the Fk26sl and Fk26ul forks? Is there any weight, stiffness, or layup difference between the standard S5 and the S5 team? Lastly I know this tends to be more hush hush but can you divulge the weight of the S5, and the S5 Team frames? Thanks again Damon, and everybody at Cervelo for being so open to our question. It really makes the brand worth buying. And I can truly say you've made me Cervelo owner for life.
  • 07-02-2011 8:49 PM In reply to

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    And a quick follow up question on the different forks.  The P4 uses a FK25 fork and the P2/P3 use the FK26.  The FK26 doesn't have the back of the fork crown that blends into the down tube the way the FK25 does on the P4.  The fork on the S5 is called out as a FK26-SL or FK26-UL, but it blends into the down tube like the FK25.  Can you explain the difference?

     I will probably get one of these forks for my SLC-SL, but would hate to end up with the wrong fork.

  • 07-02-2011 9:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: Different S5 Models?

    Following from the model update can someone post me the prices as listed in the US website. I'm in asia and no prices are listed and I cant work out to force safari/chrome to use the US website! Thanks.
  • 07-02-2011 9:29 PM In reply to

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    Hi Edwin, 

    Mechanically, the 3T Funda fork fits the S5 frame great (we've done road testing with that combination). I'll look into the spec when I'm back in the office to confirm we're selling it that way or not.

    FK26 now comes in two weights, 370 gram SL and a new lighter 340 gram UL (uncut).

    Will have to get back to you on the other questions - don't have the data at home!

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