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2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

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  • 07-16-2013 2:08 PM In reply to

    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    That is sad. Is a diamante pro a small profile tyre than the rubino? If the same then you will have the same issue. I went back to conti gp4000s as the rubinos are rubbing more.
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  • 07-16-2013 2:10 PM In reply to

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    Yes it is a 700x23 clincher. Grand prix 4000s continental. The dealer is Bay Area Cycles in Pasadena, texas. They took pictures and changed tires to the vittoria diamonte pro lites that come stock on my new P5. The difference is 2 or 3mm in height. I just feel like I should have been alerted that the bike will only work with certain wheel combinations.
  • 07-16-2013 2:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    Can you send us the same lateral picture of the bike with the new Vittoria Diamante Pro tyre?
    kwoodard:
    Yes it is a 700x23 clincher. Grand prix 4000s continental. The dealer is Bay Area Cycles in Pasadena, texas. They took pictures and changed tires to the vittoria diamonte pro lites that come stock on my new P5. The difference is 2 or 3mm in height. I just feel like I should have been alerted that the bike will only work with certain wheel combinations.
  • 07-16-2013 3:08 PM In reply to

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     I too have rubbing in the exact location on my 2012 S5 team, with the original wheels and tires that came with the bike.  The rubbing of the frame actually comes from the tire itself, as opposed to debris lodged between the tire and frame.  Are there any S5s that DO NOT rub, or is this an accepted defect?

  • 07-16-2013 3:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    No, it is not an accepted defect. The section on the frame where the rubbing occurs is wrapped by hand in manufacturing. As a result, there is an acceptable +/- tolerance so not all frames will be exactly the same. However, you should NOT have rubbing with the stock 23c tire. If you do, please visit your local retailer for a warranty claim. It should be noted that the S5 is not designed to work with 25 and larger tires.
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  • 07-16-2013 3:17 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    TeamS5:

    Are there any S5s that DO NOT rub, or is this an accepted defect?

     

    My 2012 S5 (56) doesn't.  Vittoria Open Corsa (23) on Zipp 404 non-FC clinchers.  Had Conti 4000s (23) on there for a while and they didn't rub either.  As they got older they swelled up a bit and started catching debris (small tarred rocks when they resurfaced the road on my regular route) which left a couple of small streaks.  I switched to latex tubes so the tires wouldn't sit at a high pressure for any length of time and they make for nicer ride as well.  Having the tubes loose pressure overnight was a goal for me in this instance.

     Added: The rocks made an unusual and loud squeak sound when they went through the gap.

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  • 07-16-2013 3:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    TeamS5:

    Are there any S5s that DO NOT rub, or is this an accepted defect?

     

    I have the 2012 S5 Team with Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL wheelset and the stock Vittoria Rubino Pro Slick tires, haven't noticed any rub (I'll double check tonight).

    I have about 1mm of clearance between the frame and the tire.

     

  • 07-16-2013 3:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    From the pictures on Cervelo website it does seem to have a very nice gap between the tyre and the bike (just check the Cervelo's home-page and check the main S5 there, you can almost put a finger between the frame and the tyre, never seen that in a real life picture). Anytime I see a real life picture, the gap is very very tight (not possible to see the other side at all)... I'm not sure if Cervelo website pictures are real life pictures or if they're edited on photoshop. If they're real life, then we sure do have some very big quality control issues on the production line, if they're photoshoped, then the bike is probably supposed to run on 21 tyres. On both cases we, consumers have a problem. I will tell you that I am an S5 owner running Cosmic Carbone SL + Vittoria Rubino Pro 700x23 and the gap is very tight, It doesn't rub on a daily basis, only when I ride on some bumpy roads or something, but really this is not acceptable at all. I always tought it was happening because of the Cosmic Carbone SL ( they´re only 19mm rim width) I always tought that it would be cool with a larger rim wheelset (like Zipp or Hed) but that doesn't seem to be the solution. From the reports I've heard and pictures I've seen (Cervelo website and other people's bikes), it seems to be a production problem where some bikes have a good gap and others don't... I feel very sorry because I bought my bike overseas, and now that I'm back, there's almost no chance I will be able to have my frame exchanged. Something I learned, never buy a bike with such tight tolerances... Sorry, no more Cervelo for me, this is not cool for a $ 4,000 bike... Too much money for too much trouble and very low quality control.
    TeamS5:

     I too have rubbing in the exact location on my 2012 S5 team, with the original wheels and tires that came with the bike.  The rubbing of the frame actually comes from the tire itself, as opposed to debris lodged between the tire and frame.  Are there any S5s that DO NOT rub, or is this an accepted defect?

  • 07-16-2013 3:35 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    Kookie, I have the same setup as you do, can you please send us a lateral picture so I can compare to mine. Mine doesn't rub on a daily basis, just on some bumpy roads. I'll sen you guys a close lateral picture of mine.
    Kookie:

    TeamS5:

    Are there any S5s that DO NOT rub, or is this an accepted defect?

     

    I have the 2012 S5 Team with Mavic Cosmic Carbone SL wheelset and the stock Vittoria Rubino Pro Slick tires, haven't noticed any rub (I'll double check tonight).

    I have about 1mm of clearance between the frame and the tire.

     

  • 07-16-2013 3:52 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    Just me thinking out loud …

     

    David:
    … that tire does look rather large. Not all tire manufacturers are completely consistent. Not everyone's 23 actually measures 23. Continental, especially the GP 4000s and gatorskins, tend to run much larger than other tires.

     

    The tire indeed looks rather large to me as well.  Given that the OP says he is using a 23, would the responsibility be on the part of the tire manufacturer, their tire being oversized?  I use Vittoria Open Corsa 23 on both our 404 and S60.  I do not have an S5 to validate the size but I can easily tell that my tire size is always consistent. 

    David:
    … It should be noted that the S5 is not designed to work with 25 and larger tires.

     

    Yaiks!  This is a little tricky and is subject to abuse.  Anyone who intentionally or mistakenly have used a 25 may file a claim and make it appear they were using a 23 all along.  Tough to prove from both angles.  We all just have to trust humanity.

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  • 07-16-2013 4:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    rog23:
    Kookie, I have the same setup as you do, can you please send us a lateral picture so I can compare to mine. Mine doesn't rub on a daily basis, just on some bumpy roads. I'll sen you guys a close lateral picture of mine.

    Here is a picture of my tire clearance (S5 Team).

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/87351297@N03/9303832590/ Cervelo S5

    Rear break clearance

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/87351297@N03/9301034221/ Cervelo S5

    Took off the rear wheel and no rub/scratch marks

  • 07-16-2013 5:45 PM In reply to

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     Here are the pics with the new tires.

     

     

     

  • 07-16-2013 6:20 PM In reply to

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    This is sad news for me... I'm in the market for an S5 but would like to have the possibility to,run 25's on flanders roads...
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  • 07-16-2013 6:49 PM In reply to

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    Those are very nice gaps especially with the cosmics. Same pair that I have, but I won't go near the open corsa as we have very bad roads. I'm intrigued by the diamante pro lite. However, I've already ordered and waiting for my gp 4000 700x20 tyre.
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  • 07-16-2013 9:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: 2013 S5 Rear Wheel Rubbing

    That looks to be the same gap clearance with my HED Jet 5's - I HATE the sound of debris coming off the tire and hitting the frame! ..sounds like a bad knife slash
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