[quote user="Don"]I noticed that also but... In a frameset the S series is 4000.00 and the S3 is 4200.00. What is the difference in the frame? I am interested in a Red and Black Frame in a disc. But I want to make sure there is no real difference.[/quote] It turns out it is a misprint. They are the same. I have to thank Cervelo for ...

It turns out it is a misprint. They are the same. I have to thank Cervelo for reaching out to me! Thanks!

Curious... What was the answer?

So why is there 200.00 diference between the frames... If they are the same?

I still wish I could get an answer on this!

I have a 2015 S3 with HED wheels (with 21mm ID rim width) The 25mm GP 5000 clear fine. The GP 4000 tires did not.

I noticed that also but... In a frameset the S series is 4000.00 and the S3 is 4200.00. What is the difference in the frame? I am interested in a Red and Black Frame in a disc. But I want to make sure there is no real difference.

Thanks! I am not sure how the gator skins fit. Make sure the carbon wheels have a 21mm ID if you are comparing to the HED's Are the roads in your area terrible? I even have 5000's on my tandem. This is France with the Mediterranean Sea in the background. I am kind of a HED guy! Get a hold of me with any questions.

Here is the S2 I am building right now. This one has HED Jet 4+ in the front and Jet 6+ in the rear with 25mm Continental 5000 with I also run on my S3. They clear fine. The older GP 4000 tires were bigger and the widest I can run with them is 23mm. (that is what is in the pic of my S3)

It really depends on what tires you use. Continental 4000 S 2 has a section width of 25mm on the HED wheels. On my S3 that is what I ran. Continental 25mm tires rubed the chain stay. They measured about 28mm. I can measure them tomorrow. I have a S2 build that I am doing right now with HED's on it. I will post some pictures tomorrow.